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Science-based lifting was supposed to make building muscle more effective and optimal but some people have taken things too far.
Today I’ll cover some of the strangest exercises and training methods coming from the science-based fitness community.
Something to note is, i’m actually all for using science to improve your training. Understanding biomechanics, exercise selection, progressive overload and muscle growth as a whole can make a massive difference.
But at what point does optimising your training become overcomplicating it and completely over the top.
We cover:
Whether these unorthodox exercises have more benefits.
The difference between effective training and unnecessary optimisation.
Why progressive overload still matters more than fancy exercises.
Whether science-based lifters are sometimes missing the bigger picture.
Why you don’t need to reinvent the wheel to build muscle 💪
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0:00 Science Based lifters…
0:18 The Obsession with Optimal Training
0:48 The Viral Gym Confrontation
3:30 Who do you side with?
4:38 Overcomplicating Exercises…
8:57 Jeff nippard influence…
11:13 good or bad?
12:26 he’s right!
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You dont even know what science based lifting is. Youre just showing people meme'ing. That guy doing the bracialis movement is doing bad form and too much. What's science based about that? Here's the thing about science based lifting, if it doesnt work or its too difficult, its not science based
You know, bro lifters don’t really make sense to me. If you don’t care about lifting, that’s fine, but why make fun of people for caring more than you?
why youtube recommed this small amygdala stuff to me. there was a point in time where people were lifting stones and the people working the farm thought they were crazy, why would they do that? food for thought.
Definitely going with science based…but i prefer Logic based lifting above this stupidity 😂
i mean all lifting is science based. you do curls for biceps, you woudnt do bench press for lats
love the cable fly thing haha i feel the same way and do same as you
is this like regard maxing
And I thought I was out of line when I started doing forearm curls on the cable stack…
I'll stick to my home gym and the tried and true exercises that work
Train hard, track progress, eat well and track the food consistently over a long period of time is where mostly all the benefit is.
People that do that tend to have awesome results whether there science based or not.
Jeff and Mike were great. Then the Covid Boom money came in. Things haven’t been the same since 2021
why would jeremy ether feel embarrassed when he is a grifter?
What I hate most about the gym now is how everyone is just so lost on their phone. No focus. Just addicted to their phones.
6:00 is a poverty belt squat
I don't see anything this crazy at my gym just a bunch of meatheads and scrawny boys ego lifting with 1/4 reps.
Most of his stuff seems like concentrated curls.Why doesn't he just use dumbbells instead of the cable machine wouldn't just be easier
Science based lifters probably secretly do it more for the reaction bait than for the 0.67% more optimized gains on a single muscle
I am a member of a bodybuilding gym and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Coincidentally, Sam Sulek and Kai Greene are there now. I went to work out early this morning because I knew it would be a mad house when they arrived.
This is mostly just children doing dumb shit, which honestly is pretty on brand-for the kids. I mean they might think its vaguely science based but its really just silly. I mean you never see Jeff Nippard doing this kinda stuff, its just goobers taking things too far lol
There is a balance between science and bro science, you need to find a good middleground of the two.
That wide shoulder position crucifixion move will eff up your shoulders though! I have bicep tendonitis verging on shoulder impingment and was doing wide grip back squats, found out how bad that is. Sooo…….
I recently found a gym with an incline fly Smith machine. It was the best.
Man we need those 80s construction worker/mechanic type of no bullshit and no filter dudes at every gym to just clown on everyone doing dumb shit.
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